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Jez:

--- Quote from: Griz ---would rreally like to specify the max number of cycles
that a round should be allowed to go before ending ...
--- End quote ---

Perhaps a max round thing whereby if there isn't a statistical winner by point x the challenger is given second place to the defender, would let me avoid, hopefully, stack overflow problem but don't know if that is easy fix.

Jez:
And perhaps amalgamating all the league folders into one folder rather than seperate folders for each league, not sure if people would see this as a problem but it would save me doing seperate downloadable bot files for each league.

Eric, believe me fella, not trying to keep you from floating your boat and fishing for more of those fishy things I saw a picture of you capturing nor keeping you from your book, this is an idea for the future if not an easy fix!

Griz:

--- Quote from: EricL ---Sorry, you don't get choices when it comes to the built in leagues.  That's the whole point.  You want to use some other veggy, run a custom league.
--- End quote ---

relax man!
just trying to air concerns and toss out suggestions
to at least be taken into consideration before changes
that might inadvertantly cramp someone else's ideas/style
are carved into stone, eh?
there might be things you haven't thought of yet or
taken into consideration that might be impacted.
you're the programmer ...
I'm just a user ...
and as such I'd like to retain as many options as
possible because I can't go in and tweak them.
not yet anyway.
 
otay then ...
as long as we're talking only built-in leagues ...
and we could still use most of the F1 settings in our custom
leagues without it forcing one particular veggie on us.
as it stands now, one can click on the F1 settings to reset
the parameters and then unclick and modify the one's we
wish to alter.
[actually, not sure one has to even unclick it to do that]
so as long as I'm still able alter things ... no problem.

perhaps that's what you mean ...
and we are actually taking about the same thing.
hard to tell sometimes.

Griz:

--- Quote from: Jez ---The league's are only as current as their last update, I can't run the whole lot all at once due to stack overflow problem but will get it done and updated fairly soon... (am redoing from scratch but if it keeps causing a problem I might just add latest entries to get them updated for now)
--- End quote ---

that's cool, man ...
no rush ...
I've got lots of other stuff to do before I have
time to sit down and get serious about leagues.


--- Quote ---Perhaps a max round thing whereby if there isn't a statistical winner by point x the challenger is given second place to the defender, would let me avoid, hopefully, stack overflow problem but don't know if that is easy fix.
--- End quote ---

yeah ... that's what I was thinking as well ...
the champ retains his title unless clearly defeated.
but it should be a user option and user set ...
so we don't step on the toes of the purists who want to calculate
their stats to the nth degree.
even more useful ...
a user defined max #of cycles per round for the same reason ...
some of these contests go on forever ...
ending only when one bot starves to death more slowly than the other.
so ... at the set $ of cycles ... the bot with the highest pop gets the round.
also ...
in a custom league not using wrap-around ...
or pond mode ...
I've had a bot end up 'outside' the borders ...
where it seems to not be affected by anything ...
and therefore never dies.
that was the biggest problem I came up against before in
non-league sims ... where I couldn't get a restart as
the 'last bot' was 'outside the jurisdiction'.
it's been a long time since I've run DB ...
so perhaps bots can no longer move beyond the borders ...
seems like eric did some changes that included that.

anyway ...
I'm for giving the end user as many options as possible ...
if you haven't fingered that out by now.

I'm not sure how many people actually use DB ...
seems almost more of a programmer's thing ...
appealing to those who have the skill to go in and
make it do what they want.
I can understand that draw ...
just don't have the expertise to do much yet.
that is one reason I keep coming back around
to see how things are progressing ...
inspires me to keep plugging away.

Jez:
F1 league now has a downloadable folder with all current F1 bots and F1leaguetable.txt.  

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