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PurpleYouko:

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I know what you are saying but I don't think you will ever get a creationist to actually think through the concept to that degree.
I think there is a pretty strong argument that there isn't really any such thing as "life".
After all we are all really just a bunch of chemicals reacting in certain ways. Is that really "alive"?
Are our thought processes really "life" or are they just the results of chemical reactions taking place in our brains?

"I think therefore I am"
Is that even true?
Do I really think at all?

It gets kinda weird when you travel too far down that path.  

EricL:

--- Quote from: PurpleYouko ---Are our thought processes really "life" or are they just the results of chemical reactions taking place in our brains?
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The answer of course, is both.

I hear and agree with what you are saying (especially with the difficulty of getting creationists to think critically) but in my opinion the dilema only exists if you put the term "life" on a pedistal or take the position that chemical reations are for some reason an insufficient mechanism to facilitate it.  I have no problem with the spectrum of complexity from H20 to human brains being based on the same underlying fundemental chemistry and IMHO, it in no way diminishes the specatcular nature of life to understand the underlying mechanisms.  In fact, that life has evolved the capability to access and understand it's own nature is a testiment to its acheivment.  If one were to look for a definition of *intillegent* life  - in software, or perhaps elsewhere in the universe - having evolved the capability to understand ones own nature might be a good place to start.  

So I would say my thought process are indeed 'just' chemical reations taking place in my brain, though they are quite complex reactions taking place in a unique and highly organized and purposeful manner the result of which when combined with the trillions of other reactions taking place in my body, define an autonomous entity to which the term life can be attached.

"I am.  Therefor, I think."  

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