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Simplest Evo Starter Bot
Welwordion:
I am currently running a sim with a bot with mainly 0 and 50 as starting values where I added some store and inc/dec commands as vlaues can only take affect if stored right?
As cond start stop structures are regulary destroyed by mutation I also added, sgn mult before several store commands so it works SGfies wothout conditions.
I hope when I return from uni there will still be something alife (I set an age cost for the age 200 000 ,after I saw that there were 3 birth from somewhere around 50 000-60 000 cycle)
My settings are a 32000 24000 map a planet eater gravitation of 5 no nrg costs for storing and cond and all my bots are vegs with 6 nrg gain per cycle , I started with 250 vegs/bots and 500 is the maximum.
We will see if something comes out ot this
Testlund:
I only got 3 births too after 1420800 cycles. Isn't that strange? The veggies have a bigger genome to work with this time, but the result is worse. But... I haven't given up!
Testlund:
--- Quote from: Numsgil ---Evolution is terrible at finding one specific value if none of the other values are meaningful.
--- End quote ---
This reminds me of something very interesting I read on the internet. Where's that link...
Well...It's a Swedish site, but it got a lot of links about the theory of intelligent design. Some scientists mean that it is impossible for molecules put together at random to create a living organism. Even the simplest bacteria is to complex for that. There is no one today that has put forth a good theory how the first organism was created. Maybe you guys have allready looked at this stuff, but here is a link about it.
http://www.origins.org/
This is something that has been very interesting to me since autumn last year when I first heard about it. If they find an answear to this question, then life whould no longer be a mystery. Either there is a god or we can say goodbye to religion.
So... What I'm thinking about here is that IF I can evolve a good working bot out of just 500 bots with random data, within maybe a couple of weeks or months, then maybe the planet can create a living organism out of endless stuff of molecules combined together at random for billions of years. Just a thought. What do you think about that? Maybe Nums can do a probability calculation about this. Hehe.
Numsgil:
Personally I believe in Panspermia (life on Earth was seeded from extra terrestrial sources, asteroids and stuff).
Which has the very important aspect of: how long does it take abiotic stuff to become alive?
If you believe Panspermia, it could take 3 billion billion years per cubic kilometer of ocean, once life developed somewhere it would spread through the universe.
Personally I think life is to irreducibly complex to evolve from scratch over and over again. It can be done a small handful of times, but too much is just going on.
My own ex nihilo sim: 12 million cycles. One of the bots has learned to move forward constantly. :/
--- Quote ---This is something that has been very interesting to me since autumn last year when I first heard about it. If they find an answear to this question, then life whould no longer be a mystery. Either there is a god or we can say goodbye to religion.
--- End quote ---
I think you misunderstand the nature of religion. If you ever get a chance, read "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?". In the book the androids try to prove that the dominant religion on Earth is a sham (Mercerism). They track down the actor who played Mercer, and show him to be not only not dead, but quite poor and destitute.
One of the main characters then says something to the effect of "it won't matter". The author might have meant it disparingly, but I don't think so. Personally I think that sums up my own faith quite well. If you could prove to me that there is no God and Jesus was just a man, it still wouldn't change my faith. Lots of people feel the same way I think.
Welwordion:
Ah good I just returned and heureka the 19x xxx cycle they hjave reproduced and all are shooting like crazy.
I lowered the methusalem border to 10000 and reduced they allowed number of bits to 300 to get the sim to ru n faster and to introduce a little more evolutionary pressure.(unfortunately I have a high insertion mutation rate which will cause the Dna to get longer :/)( the nrg per bot/veggie was reduced to 3 although I do not remember doing this)(I changed the viscosity to 50 instead of 150)
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