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Offline EricL

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« Reply #15 on: April 09, 2006, 09:38:45 PM »
Still going strong.  Well over 1M cycles now.  I'm just blown away by the colors...
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« Reply #16 on: April 09, 2006, 10:03:53 PM »
great ... haven't had an opportunity to play with it yet.
ii think it was elite's bot that moved by reproduction ...
that resulted, with some tweaking, in quite a few color
changes. very visually pleasing.
might be a way to give the user control over how big
a color shift takes place with mutations ...
something I thought about but haven't gotten around
to exploring.
too many irons in the fire!
pesky real life interferring with my DBing.
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« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2006, 02:22:39 AM »
It's not the colors themselves I find so fasnicating, its the magnitude of speciation they represent.
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« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2006, 05:44:44 AM »
Wow, pretty colours

You'll have to document each island's species EricL

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« Reply #19 on: April 11, 2006, 01:22:41 AM »
PY asked about the bots in this sim.  Attached is the guy I started with, EricL1.txt.  Not a very refined bot, still has some bugs, just my own learning bot, but lots of DNA for evolution to work with.  (23 genes, 363bp)

Also attached is just a sample of one of the evolved bots in the sim (34 genes, 383bp) snapped at around 700k cycles (I had to restart a couple of times due to bugs that are fixed in 2.42.2).  He's 134 mutations away from the starting bot.  The text of the mutations is below.

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Mutations:
Copy Error changed value of condition from < to ~= at position 294 during cycle 515509
Insertion changed the :  to the flow command: cond at position 213 during cycle 515422
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 338 during cycle 514548
Copy Error changed value of store command from store to dec at position 117 during cycle 514548
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 37 during cycle 513025
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from cond to else at position 1 during cycle 512215
Reversal of 5bps centered at  115 during cycle 511453
Insertion changed the :  to the bit command: ~ at position 141 during cycle 510433
Reversal of 3bps centered at  273 during cycle 510304
Copy Error changed value of store command from inc to store at position 89 during cycle 507067
Reversal of 3bps centered at  205 during cycle 506619
Copy Error changed value of condition from != to !%= at position 259 during cycle 504080
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 200 during cycle 503354
Major Deletion deleted a run of 3 bps at position 152 during cycle 499316
Copy Error changed value of flow command from cond to start at position 104 during cycle 499316
Insertion changed the :  to the *number: *-10 at position 317 during cycle 499108
Insertion changed the :  to the number: 157 at position 222 during cycle 496900
Major Deletion deleted a run of 3 bps at position 85 during cycle 481991
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 343 during cycle 481981
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 192 during cycle 481981
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 50 during cycle 477022
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from else to cond at position 352 during cycle 474308
Reversal of 5bps centered at  263 during cycle 470014
Insertion changed the :  to the number: -115 at position 345 during cycle 470014
Insertion changed the :  to the logic operator: and at position 238 during cycle 470014
Copy Error changed value of flow command from cond to start at position 357 during cycle 464101
Point Mutation changed number from 8 to 9 at position 332 during cycle 442301
Reversal of 3bps centered at  347 during cycle 439678
Point Mutation changed value of store command from store to inc at position 93 during cycle 428709
Reversal of 5bps centered at  44 during cycle 426545
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 165 during cycle 417101
Reversal of 3bps centered at  363 during cycle 402557
Reversal of 5bps centered at  267 during cycle 402396
Point Mutation changed *number from 707 to 652 at position 268 during cycle 389393
Point Mutation changed value of condition from = to !%= at position 291 during cycle 383206
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from stop to start at position 94 during cycle 381197
Point Mutation changed *number from 707 to 805 at position 245 during cycle 379513
Reversal of 5bps centered at  280 during cycle 359740
Reversal of 3bps centered at  106 during cycle 359740
Point Mutation changed value of condition from > to >= at position 193 during cycle 476011
Point Mutation changed value of basic command from abs to sub at position 39 during cycle 460298
Point Mutation changed *number from 462 to 557 at position 219 during cycle 455445
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from stop to cond at position 13 during cycle 455073
Point Mutation changed number from 50 to 53 at position 252 during cycle 445180
Reversal of 3bps centered at  335 during cycle 429760
Copy Error changed number from 84 to 88 at position 179 during cycle 427983
Reversal of 5bps centered at  60 during cycle 427749
Copy Error changed *number from 503 to 564 at position 85 during cycle 427094
Point Mutation changed number from 467 to 463 at position 224 during cycle 426156
Copy Error changed value of flow command from stop to else at position 351 during cycle 425605
Copy Error changed value of store command from store to dec at position 274 during cycle 425605
Point Mutation changed the flow command: stop to the store command: store at position 240 during cycle 425090
Point Mutation changed the number: 77 to the *number: *77 at position 205 during cycle 422316
Insertion changed the :  to the store command: inc at position 206 during cycle 413313
Point Mutation changed number from 10 to 19 at position 38 during cycle 408276
Copy Error changed value of store command from inc to dec at position 103 during cycle 403517
Insertion changed the :  to the logic operator: and at position 113 during cycle 403500
Copy Error changed *number from 501 to 518 at position 47 during cycle 403264
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 126 during cycle 399635
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 144 during cycle 393998
Insertion changed the :  to the store command: store at position 260 during cycle 393985
Major Deletion deleted a run of 2 bps at position 32 during cycle 393724
Insertion changed the :  to the *number: *89 at position 149 during cycle 390285
Reversal of 3bps centered at  353 during cycle 387385
Reversal of 3bps centered at  166 during cycle 387005
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from start to else at position 209 during cycle 379486
Point Mutation changed value of condition from = to <= at position 119 during cycle 353451
Major Deletion deleted a run of 2 bps at position 350 during cycle 353436
Point Mutation changed value of basic command from rnd to abs at position 41 during cycle 351306
Point Mutation changed number from 452 to 456 at position 356 during cycle 339965
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 265 during cycle 331537
Insertion changed the :  to the bit command: ++ at position 196 during cycle 329431
Point Mutation changed number from 697 to 666 at position 129 during cycle 311742
Point Mutation changed *number from 508 to 475 at position 65 during cycle 308836
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from start to cond at position 86 during cycle 305043
Insertion changed the :  to the flow command: start at position 208 during cycle 290806
Insertion changed the :  to the condition: < at position 300 during cycle 274132
Insertion changed the :  to the store command: inc at position 105 during cycle 261416
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 253 during cycle 223600
Insertion changed the :  to the *number: *.out2 at position 281 during cycle 211765
Major Deletion deleted a run of 2 bps at position 26 during cycle 203816
Reversal of 5bps centered at  33 during cycle 201158
Reversal of 3bps centered at  295 during cycle 201151
Insertion changed the :  to the flow command: cond at position 62 during cycle 201151
Point Mutation changed *number from 501 to 486 at position 58 during cycle 200466
Major Deletion deleted a run of 4 bps at position 297 during cycle 200129
Point Mutation changed number from 4 to-6 at position 122 during cycle 189624
Point Mutation changed value of flow command from start to else at position 282 during cycle 166993
Insertion changed the :  to the number: .refveldx at position 129 during cycle 166670
Point Mutation changed *number from 454 to 487 at position 353 during cycle 162609
Point Mutation changed number from 6 to-12 at position 107 during cycle 161405
Reversal of 3bps centered at  72 during cycle 160986
Copy Error changed number from 90 to 84 at position 180 during cycle 160986
Major Deletion deleted a run of 3 bps at position 40 during cycle 158904
Point Mutation changed number from 6 to 22 at position 98 during cycle 157817
Copy Error changed value of condition from = to %= at position 5 during cycle 155662
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 137 during cycle 152923
Insertion changed the :  to the advanced command: angle at position 340 during cycle 144640
Reversal of 3bps centered at  288 during cycle 144101
Point Mutation changed value of basic command from sub to mult at position 185 during cycle 134099
Point Mutation changed *number from 707 to 639 at position 139 during cycle 108575
Major Deletion deleted a run of 2 bps at position 101 during cycle 102159
Point Mutation changed value of store command from store to dec at position 113 during cycle 102056
Point Mutation changed number from 200 to 201 at position 232 during cycle 87405
Point Mutation changed value of condition from > to != at position 233 during cycle 82046
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 284 during cycle 75400
Reversal of 5bps centered at  310 during cycle 75400
Point Mutation changed number from 314 to 300 at position 302 during cycle 51943
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 41 during cycle 44642
Point Mutation changed value of store command from store to inc at position 33 during cycle 29979
Point Mutation changed value of condition from < to %= at position 288 during cycle 24660
Point Mutation changed the number: 100 to the advanced command: dist at position 131 during cycle 23240
Point Mutation changed number from 728 to 639 at position 34 during cycle 18720
Reversal of 3bps centered at  355 during cycle 18232
Copy Error changed the flow command: stop to the number: .dx at position 307 during cycle 14812
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 368 during cycle 11357
Copy Error changed number from 471 to 418 at position 213 during cycle 11041
Minor Deletion deleted a run of 1 bps at position 230 during cycle 5328
Insertion changed the :  to the store command: store at position 172 during cycle 3791
Insertion changed the :  to the bit command: & at position 4 during cycle 1915
« Last Edit: April 11, 2006, 01:26:08 AM by EricL »
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« Reply #20 on: April 11, 2006, 03:57:04 AM »
Do like playing with evolution in restricted enviroments myself. Normally gravity works great. I've also done bots with no movement code at all in a brownian enviroment. Every so often you'll have a trait evolves thats bad to a group overall, but the spread will be naturally limited.

Had some good effects with walls when we had them. One species developed one feeding method, while the other found a completly different method.

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As to DNA lengths, generally the first things bots mutate effectively are deletions or inactivations. You'd be surprised at how mnay things we give our bots to be "better" seem to be the first to drop off.

Whereas insertions of new matterial is quite dangerous, since it could really be anything. So maybe there's a selective pressure against the insertion of new code, which is why your bots aren't growing in DNA length.

I agree with this completly. They also seem to like playing around with the gene structure lately to accomplish inactivations quicker.

Some of what we think would help the bots actually restricts them in an evolving enviroment. They'll be adapting to evolving family, enemies, and the enviroment; what we generally code for is just efficency and fighting enemies in a species/species combat enviroment. There's also a question of fault tolerance. For instance it's better when mutating to either tie permanently at birth or not tie at all. A birth-tie will always naturally deltie itself a regular tie can not be expected to always do the same with mutations involved.

On another note  

Is that how you manage to afford to cruise around so much? I'm onboard a sub and it's insanely expensive just to get us from one port to another.
« Last Edit: April 11, 2006, 04:14:58 AM by Endy »