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spiceant:
eversince I have visited and red the 2 pages of http://www.lifeaftertheoilcrash.net/ I cant stop visiting and haunting both the above sit and www.peakoil.com my mind keeps tricking me into thinking either 2 are more important then DB
then again it really is... aaahh...
HHEEEEELLLPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

Numsgil:
While it is true and has been for some time that world oil production is finite and demand is not, I don't think a doomsday prediction is quite accurate.

BioDiesel fuels and Alcohol based fuels are the most obvious short term solution.

These are not "experimental" as your article claims, but are quite mainstream in many areas.  Alcohol based fuels are particularly ubiquitous in Brazil, I believe (it may be another SA country, but I think it's Brazil) where all gas stations are required to provide both and have been since the 1970s fuel shock.  Sugar beets provide the fuel source for Alcohol fuels, which is obviously a renewable resource.

In fact, the main detrimate to the development of alternative fuel sources has been the cheap cost of oil.

Will there be a small dip in our economy?  Possibly.  Will it mean the end of the world?  I doubt it.  I likewise doubt that it will be on par with the 1930s depression.

spiceant:
on page 2 it reads that biofuels such as ethanol and biodiesel cost more energy to produce then it there's in it. Now I'm preassuming the 2 fuels are quite cheap because they can be produced using relatively cheap machinery, which currently still have cheap energy available to them.
Can biofuels fuel their own means of being produced and transported so that it nets a positive amount of commercially available biofuel?

PurpleYouko:
Basically, ethanol can be produced by fermenting and distilling grass or corn stems.

The energy involved to distill it is fairly low and can even be set up to run from solar power (if they get clever enough). Most of the energy is stored in the grass by months of exposure to the sun and rain.

Don't know much about biodeisel but I would assume that it is a bi-product of the distillation process of the ethanol since organic material breaks down to many different length alkane chains under the correct conditions.

Numsgil:
Brazil has been running on alcohol fuels for 30 years and they seem to be doing alright.  My school uses biodiesel for many of their vehicles.

It would be disasterour if all the oil in the world just disappeared, but it won't.  As it gradually declines, our dependance on it will decrease as new technology becomes available.  The main reason we're so dependant on oil is that the supply is so large.  There's no reason bot to be when it's so cheap.

Take the short hicup in oil prices over the summer.  The result?  Car makers are now more aggressively producing and advertising their 40 MPG cars.

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